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I've heard good things about Tim Horton's. But I don't know where any are. The horrors of vast wastelands... no fresh donuts.

*note to self* root out the insulated Tim Horton's mug from last time child was in Canada so she can pack it

She *will* be stopping at Tim Horton's to buy some donuts while she's there, right? RIGHT?!?!

I guess???

I am more sure that she'll be stocking up on some Tim Horton's drinking chocolate - it was very good, as I recall.

Drinking chocolate, but not donuts.

*hangs head*

Oh, the humanity.

I'm not saying she *won't* just I'm not sure she will.

There are really strict rules about snacks between meals - even for the staff - at the camp she is going to be working at. So I can see it going one of 2 ways:
1) every time she has a day off she will head toward somewhere she can get a 'fix' of munchies
or
2) she will lose the snacking habit.

Oh btw a typical Jewish grace before meals? Is that likely to be something long?

(We were reading the daily camp routine yesterday and grace is said before meals in both English and Hebrew.)

I asked my kids, who go to a Jewish sleepaway camp. They said there is a basic "thank you for the grub" sort of prayer before every meal that's two lines- no more than a minute or so and another prayer after the meal (which is a bit longer). For Shabbat (Friday before dinner as well as Saturday after breakfast) there would be services and an extra prayer before the meal and after the meal its a longer prayer. They said there was no prayer before breakfast though.

Thanks - insider information is a good thing to have :D - oddly it didn't even occur to me they *might* be longer on a Friday *facepalms like crazy*.

Is edikkated person realy, honust.

Although, from what I skimmed about the camp she's going to it's a lot more laid back then my kids' camp, Interlaken (http://www.campinterlaken.org/index.shtml), which is a JCC affiliated camp and kosher and more serious about the Judaism. I would expect her camp to have shorter services and less Hebrew and more English and things like that.

Quite possibly *nods* The first time anything even vaguely religious has come up was that, about the grace before meals and (in the same breath) a mention of a moment's meditation after lunch? I think it was.

Though the meditation moment seems to just require everyone stands still and be-s *quiet* as it comes with a musical accompaniment...

I should think it's very low key then. And it sounds like they do have a number of non-Jewish campers and counselors so she won't be the only one out of their element. It's not too hard to learn the basic prayers, I'm sure she'll pick it up quickly.

There's a whole lot of learnin' to be done - turns out they also sing not only the Canadian National Anthem every day but the American one as well!

Oh. Weird. I'm sure there will be cheat sheets though. My kids say they didn't know a lot of the prayers and camp songs before they went, but learned them pretty quickly.

She'll pick them up - as long as she isn't expected to *lead* the Hebrew version at any time I'm sure she'll be fine :D

If she's really worried, I'm sure most of the prayers are available online for her to listen to first.

This might help (http://www.learnhebrewprayers.com/shabbat.html). The absolute basic Shabbat prayers are the blessings over the wine (kiddush) candles and bread.

*loves you*

Thank you!

She might not need any of these, but basic Jewish songs that might be sung are: L'Cha Dodi (although there are MANY versions of this) and Shema Yisroel.

http://sidduraudio.com/ the 2nd version of l'cha dodi is the one I've heard the most (although usually with some back and forth from the song leader and everyone else)

Although, hang on, the kids camp sent a cd, I could DL it and upload it for you if you'd like

Oh it's okay I don't want to put you out or anything. And as far as I undrestand it, some of the evening campfire type stuff is taken up with learning the songs that are used during camp (both secular and religious) :D

I think she's going to go armed with some of the Scout and Guide one's she knows from over here - I know she has already nabbed the Wide Games book off the shelf!

I really wouldn't mind uploading it for you if you think she'd be at all interested. But yes, she probably would do fine without it because most likely the camp is used to teaching all the songs to people

NO it's fine. She'd be interested but I don't know when she'd have time to listen tbh - we've got so much to do this week (we even still have to buy her her new suitcase!)

okeydokie. The offer's there if she's curious later or anything. :)

Thank you *mwah*