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donutsweeper ([personal profile] donutsweeper) wrote2007-11-25 10:08 pm
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Meta post- on writing drabbles

Recently I was discussing with [personal profile] mad_jaks the wonders of fighting with a drabble's word count.  Far too often you're fighting to reach that perfect 100 words.  It'll want to be 97, or 102, anything but 100.  Or, you manage 100, but it doesn't quite deliver the punch you'd like.

And I've written a lot of drabbles lately, more than 30 in the past 4 weeks alone.

With all the Jack/Jack stories that have been posted lately I've found myself pondering the changes in Jack from DW S1 to TW S1 and DW S3.  If he changed that much in 150 or so years, what changes would there be in 1500 years?  Or 15,000?  And I thought about the constant in his life through all the episodes we'd seen him in, his wrist computer. 

Here are the various drabbles (each, somehow, the perfect 100 words), with commentary on why they did or didn't work, that came about as a result.
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So, with those thoughts in mind I began to write.  In my first attempt I focused mostly on the computer itself. 

He picked up a new wrist computer as soon as he could and wore it on his right wrist.  It was a 52nd century model, snazzier with more bells and whistles than his earlier one.  And it worked, which was always a plus.  But he still wore the old one on his left.  It didn’t work anymore and he told himself he wore it because he’d gotten so used to the bloody thing and besides it looked damn sexy.  But he knew it was a lie, there was something about it that he just couldn’t bear to give it up. 
 
But it didn't really have the punch I was going for.  I liked that he'd go for the familiar, the thing that had been a constant in his life, and a tie to his past, but overall the drabble lacked quite a bit in my book.                  
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Therefore, onto the second, with a slightly different slant.


The strap on his wrist computer gave out somewhere around its seventh century.  Not a bad life span overall, but not quite the lifetime guarantee that had been promised him.  Jack figured he’d gotten his money’s worth out of it though, and since some of the mechanisms still worked he had a case constructed for it so he could carry it around in his pocket.  By the time it reached its second millennium there wasn’t a circuit in the thing that hadn’t fried, so, with a tinge of regret, he relegated it to a place of honor on the mantelpiece.

Again, it was good, much better than the first, but still not right.  I liked the idea of the place of honor on the mantle, but it never exactly got to the point I was trying to make in the drabble.
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So, I tried again.  I felt the premise in the second worked better so I stuck with it.


The strap on his wrist computer finally gave out somewhere around its seventeenth century.  Not a bad life span overall, although far from the lifetime guarantee it had promised.  Some of the mechanisms still worked though, so he had a case constructed so he could carry it in his pocket.  Two thousand years later, when every circuit had fried, he relegated it to a spot on the mantelpiece.  Eventually, the 51st Century came back around and he bought a new one.   He wasn’t sure what was different, but it never felt right on his wrist. 

Ignoring the basic math mistake, this was closer to what I was trying to say, but not quite there yet.  Something was missing in the way the replacement computer failed to properly replace the original one.  I was a little bothered about dropping the 'place of honor' bit, but felt it worked fine without it.
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Now it was mostly done, I just had to do some tweaking.


The strap on his wrist computer finally gave out somewhere around its seventh century.  Not a bad life span overall, although far from the lifetime guarantee that had been promised.  Some of the mechanisms still worked though, so he had a case constructed so he could carry it in his pocket.  Two thousand years later, when every circuit had fried, he relegated it to a spot on the mantelpiece.  Eventually, in the 51st Century again, he bought a new one, the same make and model as his first.   He wasn’t sure why, but it never felt right on his wrist. 

I played with the last line some more, trying to get it to say what I wanted, but I really didn't feel I succeeded. 
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So, I went at it with a hacksaw, which eventually led to the finished (and posted) version:


The strap on his wrist computer finally gave out somewhere around its seventh century.  Since some of the mechanisms still worked he had a case constructed so he could carry it around in his pocket.  Two thousand years later, when every circuit had fried, he relegated it to a spot on the mantelpiece.

Eventually, in the 51st Century again, he bought himself a new one.  Even though it was the same make and model as his first, he found it terribly uncomfortable to wear. He had no idea why; it was the same and he was the same, wasn’t he?

Removing the line about the lifetime guarantee and making it the title turned out to be the key, it left the space to really put into words the premise behind the drabble, asking the reader to think about the changes that Jack himself might have gone though during his long life.

[identity profile] fandom-me.livejournal.com 2007-11-26 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
This? Was a brilliant idea. It was also a lot of fun to read, and doing it with a drabble made it about twenty times cooler/more fun , I think.

[identity profile] donutsweeper.livejournal.com 2007-11-26 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
*bounces* and *beams*

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_medley_/ 2007-11-26 05:03 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, that's really interesting! It's really nifty to see it in its different incarnations, and to see where you ended up. Great edits--the final version really packs a punch.

[identity profile] donutsweeper.livejournal.com 2007-11-26 05:05 am (UTC)(link)
*eg* Oh good! Drabble writing can be so hard, figuring out what to prune and what to leave. *bounces like mad*

[identity profile] rustydog.livejournal.com 2007-11-26 06:15 am (UTC)(link)
And oh! I should have read this before I commented on the drabble, I'm afraid now my comment sounds weird. Eh, no matter - this is great! Thank you for that look into your process, it's very interesting. I loved the "lifetime" guarantee line when I read it and I can see that it would have been a struggle to take it out. Making it the title was a great idea! (I admit, I didn't notice the title until I saw you mention it here, in that explanation. I should pay more attention.)

[identity profile] donutsweeper.livejournal.com 2007-11-26 06:17 am (UTC)(link)
Your comment on the drabble didn't sound weird at all! Mentioning the 'punch' in the last line is a super kind of compliment, because that's exactly what I was going for and felt was missing in all the earlier versions! (And, half the time, titles are immaterial to me as well, so I understand how you could have missed it)

[identity profile] mad-jaks.livejournal.com 2007-11-26 08:21 am (UTC)(link)
First of all Thanks.
And Congratulations on remembering to use 'Save As' :D

It's a relief to have another drabble writer say they have stuff that wants to come in at *less* than one hundred words. I always feel like I'm in a minority with that one - ever tried explaining how hard it was to *add* that final word?

And yes the first one would have had me poking it as well BUT I can see what it did do was crystalise *your* thinking about WHY Jack was still clinging to it which made the other variations possible. (I'd also have been wondering what he was up to in the 51st Century to not get one then ;-))

The second - UM - in my head 'relegated' and 'place of honour' are almost opposites. Though relegated works fine on it's own in the next version because by then it's become a treasured object he wants to see every day :-)

I like the fact you've maintained a firm grip on the passage of time - I always do the maths as I go along - I'm weird like that ;-)

Fourth version: definitely a good choice to bring in the 'why' word :D

And the fifth version: bringing in that paragraph? Big thumbs up for that one - the physical break really emphasises that 'Eventually'.

Removing the line about the lifetime guarantee and making it the title
As you linked me straight here I missed the title BUT - and possibly because I read/write so many of them myself - I'd probably have taken it onboard in the way you meant.

asking the reader to think about the changes
Which takes us back to what you said last night about liking to make the reader think for themselves. *How* you accomplish this: give them an analogy; make them extrapolate; ask them the direct question; leave them hanging I don't care! Because they all work and are all great :D
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[personal profile] unfeathered 2007-11-26 01:41 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a relief to have another drabble writer say they have stuff that wants to come in at *less* than one hundred words.

A lot of my drabbles come in at about 60-70 words in the first draft, so I have to add a fair bit to them - another whole thought, as it were. Then they'll often go over and I have to drag them back down again.

OR, if they turn out long on first draft and I prune them, then they'll often come in just under 100.

You Are Not Alone. *g*

[identity profile] mad-jaks.livejournal.com 2007-11-26 01:47 pm (UTC)(link)
YANA
Oh gooooooody :D

[identity profile] donutsweeper.livejournal.com 2007-11-26 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)
OR, if they turn out long on first draft and I prune them, then they'll often come in just under 100.

That's what I hate. Usually it's 90 something words, so I rework then it's 110 or so, then I rework it and it 97. that magic 100 always fights me

[identity profile] donutsweeper.livejournal.com 2007-11-26 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)
(I only remembered to save as with the finished drabbles, my original plan was to save with each major correction, oops) BUT, it was interesting to compare it anyway.

I'm so glad to reads others have the too small word count too. Somehow, in no time at all I have a'finished' drabble but, at 92 words, then I futz around and its 98 or 99 and then spend half an hours tweaking it to be 100

I hadn't really thought about 'relegated' and 'place of honor' being opposites, more that he reluctantly placed it up there, but i can see how it'd read that way.

And I'm so glad making the reader *think* worked. Writing crack is fun, but this kind of piece is what I like best, giving someone something to ponder. The highest compliment I ever received was when someone told me they'd never really seen a character that way people and I'd really opened up their eyes.

Thanks for the indepth comments and the suggestion to do this meta in the first place!

[identity profile] smithy161.livejournal.com 2007-11-26 08:56 am (UTC)(link)
Now THAT is a good idea. Very interesting. The process of writing drabbles is infuriating at the time, but very interesting when you examine it.

Love the finished product, by the way!

[identity profile] donutsweeper.livejournal.com 2007-11-26 05:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I find writing drabbles to be so frustrating sometimes, I'm glad others think that as well
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[personal profile] unfeathered 2007-11-26 01:37 pm (UTC)(link)
That's really interesting. I don't think I've ever worked on a drabble that much - tweaked odd lines a lot, and even reduced one (Lethally Blond) from about 166 words (and yes I did keep the long version) - but never changed it so drastically. Congratulations on working so hard to get the desired result!

Having said that, there's a lot I like about the first draft. Especially Jack acknowledging that he wears it partly because it looks sexy. (Because it does!) *g* You're right, though, that it doesn't pack the same punch.

As for 'lifetime guarantee' - thinking about it, isn't 700 years pretty good? Presumably even 51st century people don't usually live that long! *g*

[identity profile] donutsweeper.livejournal.com 2007-11-26 05:16 pm (UTC)(link)
It didn't feel like I really spent too long working on this. All in all, probably less than two hours from start to finished piece.

The lifetime guarantee line was supposed to be bittersweet, that he outlasts everything (and everyone) in his life :)

[identity profile] awanderingbard.livejournal.com 2007-11-26 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
That was cool, miss! I always find it interesting how people work on different things and the stages they go through. I did a similar thing with a piece of Poser artwork I made (here (http://royalsongstress.livejournal.com/24449.html#cutid1) if you're interested, but be warned that the digital figure starts off nude if you have youngins about), because I wanted people to see that what you start with and what you end up with are often very different and how the changes occur or what influences them as you go along. In my stories, I usually have my friend Amalie (who I call my 'how come?' person) listen as I read them aloud and she points out plot holes or 'so and so wouldn't say that' or whatever, which I then have to fix. In the last chapter of Somnus (http://awanderingbard.livejournal.com/25964.html#cutid1), for example, she was the one who pointed out that A) Harry can't drive manual with a broken arm and b) Jake's things would most likely have been removed from his locker after he'd been dead that long. So then I had to rewrite to make those things work, which I then added to the story as part of Harry's narration. ("On the list of things that I had failed to consider, ‘Jake has been dead for nearly a week, even if you have been talking to him’ was next after ‘you can’t drive a manual transmission with a broken arm, you dolt’.") And for Pas de Deux (http://awanderingbard.livejournal.com/9083.html#cutid1), I had a whole plot going on before I realised that I all I needed to sell the story was Harry and Murphy dancing. So I stopped and rewrote it so that the only thing before them dancing was how they ended up dancing.

I'm nattering, but this was a very cool concept. It gives me an idea for a meme, actually...hmmm...

[identity profile] donutsweeper.livejournal.com 2007-11-26 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Glad I gave you an idea. In the past few months I've come to rely on beta's for picking up on those things in longer fics (and it's absolutely essential sometimes like when you forget little details and wind up mispelling your own OC's name *headdesk* or forget to mention a vital detail because it's so 'obvious') but I rarely run drabbles by them.

what was most interesting about this was I rarely think about why I make the changes, I just erased and rewrite bit that I feel don't quite work, but by writing this up I had to figure out what it was that motivated me to make the changes.