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donutsweeper ([personal profile] donutsweeper) wrote2010-09-03 11:01 am
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What do you consider canon?

This poll is brought to you by the fact that the international version of the White Collar pilot contained scenes not in the American one...

[Poll #1614567]

[identity profile] awanderingbard.livejournal.com 2010-09-03 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)
The same thing happened with Nero Wolfe when it was shown elsewhere. Different countries have different rules for how much time is spent in commercials, so if the country has less commercial time, sometimes the show will provided extra stuff to fill in the difference. Nero Wolfe sometimes had a opening or joining scene with the guys playing poker and something along the lines of 'remember that case where...'

For me, canon is what the creators say is canon. I don't put much stock in deleted scenes, since they were deleted for a reason. They were able to be cut because they weren't important enough to need to keep. They may be fun little facts to throw in, but they aren't strictly canon.

[identity profile] donutsweeper.livejournal.com 2010-09-03 05:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't know that about Nero Wolfe! And I've seen the dvds too and don't remember seeing scenes that hadn't aired here. huh.

I don't put much stock in deleted scenes, since they were deleted for a reason. They were able to be cut because they weren't important enough to need to keep. They may be fun little facts to throw in, but they aren't strictly canon.

I like this way of looking at them, I agree with it.

[identity profile] awanderingbard.livejournal.com 2010-09-03 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
There are apparently two versions of the DVDs? And you can request them or something? I don't know, I read it on the Wolfe Pack website ages ago.

The opposite thing happened for Doctor Who when it originally aired in the States (not sure about Canada, I watched them on DVD). They cut out scenes to fit in the time slot, since Britain has less commerical time. I'm sure it was the same with Spooks/MI-5, since the episodes are literally 60 minutes long and A&E would have had commercials it needed to show.

They show The Tudors on CBC here and edit it so hard, it's not even funny. We missed so many episodes, we got the DVDs and discovered there were whole characters and plot lines edited out. They even truncated the opening credits.

So maybe canon for me is 'what originally aired, in the country of its origin'.

[identity profile] donutsweeper.livejournal.com 2010-09-03 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)
'what originally aired, in the country of its origin'.

That's my canon too.

I saw the US version (DVD and what aired) of Nero Wolfe, I have never seen different dvds anywhere, but I'll keep my eye out.

I remember hearing that the scene in "The Doctor Dances" between Jack and Rose on his ship where he explains the nanogenes was cut from it's first airing in Canada and then they realized how much it affected the episode and found a different scene to cut in subsequent airings. I'd have hope that the importance to the overall plot was considered before slicing up shows!