donutsweeper | Because I am insane...

That would make a very good fic ♥ And, honestly, out of all those characters at NCIS, I think Gibbs and maybe Abby come closest to knowing that Tony is like inside.

Evil? Moi? *bats eyelashes and blinks innocently*
*rubs hands happily* Yay! Fic! Awesome!

I think Abby's interesting for that. Most of the fanfic world makes her like a sister/best friend to Tony and there definitely is some of that on the show, but I think it's become fanon more than it is really canon. Like Ducky calling Tony "young Anthony" I actually haven't been able to find him saying that on the show, but it's in 90% of fics.

Gibbs is hard to judge. he'll say and do one thing, but then have this light look/smile that makes you think he's really seeing through that gruffness.

*babbles*

I think it's easy to interpret the relationship between Abby and Tony as seen in canon that way, or at least it is for me, because sometimes Abby will show some knowledge of Tony that other characters don't seem to have. Like, in One Shot To Kill, they have the following converstation
Abby: Tell me something I don't know
Tony: I dated my music teacher once
Abby: Really? What was his name?

And that his there? It's such a small thing, but for me it's things like that which make me think that Abby might know a lot more about Tony than Show lets on. I both love and hate that a lot of things related to Tony are so very understated. Mostly, I love it.

And yeah, it's true that Gibbs is hard to judge. It's part of the reason why there can be characterisations of him that are so incredibly different and still somehow all based in canon - he's a complex character and when you build your characterisation of him on just a few of those facets, it works and someone else will build the character based on other facets and it'll be the same character, but they'll be totally different.

Am I even making sense here?

ooh I missed that "his" bit in that conversation when I saw it! very interesting!!

And you *are* making perfect sense. He's very contradictory on screen. I can totally see why some people think there's a father/son relationship and others see a slash relationship (although not both in the same fic please)

I watched that scene about five times because I couldn't believe she actually said his, but she must be saying that. I mean. I heard his every damn time and and and *flails* My English isn't that bad and she's not mumblinb or anything.

Yeah, I can see that as well. And, honestly. one of the things I love so much about NCIS is that just about every character has some kind of chemistry with every other character. It's so much love.

No, not in the same fic. That's just... *hides*

I checked the transcript- you are right
TONY: I once dated my high school music teacher.
ABBY: Really? What was his name?
TONY: Hah. Cute.

(I've read it in the same fic. *hides* it was terrible. It also randomly veered into mpreg. *shudder*)

Wheeeeeeeeee! *falls over*

Oh noes! I can imagine that it must have been terrible :( I mean. I shuddered at the prospect - and I actually like mpreg. If it's well written, that is. And covers the reasons why I like it - which none of the mpreg in NCIS fandom does, really.
.. As a matter of fact, I only ever read.. well, maybe two or three mpreg stories that covered those reasons *headdesk*

mpreg isn't a favorite of mine. In scifi it can vaguely work, but when its NCIS and they don't change anything in the universe other than randomly adding in the 'oh yeah, guys can get pregnant' and then don't explain any of the how (I read one where Tony refused to get a c-section and Gibbs was afraid he'd die in childbirth and I kept thinking, where the hell is Tony pushing the baby? how's it's going to get out?)

I don't like what you're describing at all, either. That's just wrong. I like mpreg for one reason and under one condition. The condition being that it doesn't focus on the physical aspect of it or, if it does, makes them believable. The reason is that male pregnancy is not, in no case, something a character would ever experience normally and it puts one hell of a lot of pressure on the character. I might have a thing for putting pressure on characters, stripping them bare of all protective layers and waiting to see if they break (and if so, if someone will put them back together and how) and mpreg does that. At least the kind of mpreg I like. Of which there really isn't a lot out there, I'll admit. But when I think of mpreg, I think of that - psychological and emotional pressure on two men and one of them especially. It's interesting to see them deal with it. That's what I like about it. It's such an unusual situation for a man to be in. And, sure. Unrealistic as hell. But. It affects them mentally, physically, it's not something they can escape. I like that.

*babbles*

I see what you mean with that. That's why it can work in scifi- because it's gets around all the 'how' and 'huh' with a bit of technobabble or whatever. BUT no turning the characters into emo-whiners please.

Oh God, no! I hate the emo-whining. In mpregs and in general. No, the fic has to stay true to the characters, otherwise it's no fun. I'm not the best writer, but this (http://community.livejournal.com/shorikurai/13203.html) comes close to what I mean about mpreg. I'd rec you someone else's stuff, but I'm sure you've already read Becky's Never Doing That Again and the only other two good mpregs that would underline my point are from Supernatural which I think you don't watch?

Becky's is great. Oh, I've read yours before too, I just didn't remember it.

I watched Supernatural S1 but then gave up on it

I love Supernatural a lot. Haven't watched it in quite some time 'cause there's just no way for me to get the episodes :( But I love the fandom (even though it makes me read and write incest, which, just... uhm, no. not my kind of thing. I ignore the fact that they're brothers a lot).

I haven't delved into that fandom at all, and the 'wincest' is one of the reasons.

Yeah, that makes perfect sense :D As I said, I'm mainly ignoring that they're brothers and pretending they're not when I'm reading fanfiction. 'm good at that. Pretending, I mean. But Sam is very pretty. I couldn't resist him.

and Dean is sexy as hell too. Jensen Ackles. *sigh* Although he was cuter in Dark Angel. Have you watched much Dark Angel?

He's hot as hell. I'm more of a Jared Padalecki fan, though. And the two of them have completely converted me to liking RPS.

I watched... the first few episodes. And then they changed the stupid law and now I'm not downloading stuff anymore 'cause of that law and, uhm. So I haven't actually watched any of season two (or even the end of season one) and Alec only appears in S2, doesn't he? *tilts head*

He's in one episode of S1. But not as Alec. As one of the X-5s that escaped. he was introduced as Alec in S2.

I'm glad you've seen the beginning of the series since the Logan/Jack story I'm writing is set during the first episode- so you'll know enough to be able to read it.

Ah, but I'm good at reading fanfiction at all times. I mean. I've been reading Lindsey McDonald fanfiction the last few days without ever having watched a single episode of Angel. Looked up what I need to understand on wikipedia and the rest came together after the first few stories *bounces*
.. Only works when one's not spoiler-phobic, though. Which I'm definitely not.
Hell. I only started watching NCIS because I like Tony in fanfiction. There's fandoms I'm in where I haven't ever seen a single episode of the actual show. It works out, somehow *shrugs*

I'm definitely looking forward to reading your Logan/Jack story *beams*

I'm not sure I could read fanfic without having watched the show at all. Although, I have to admit, I like "House" fanfic better than the show, but I have seen a bunch of episodes.

I can and I have and I will - and I like it. It does take a character to catch my eye, but once that's done? It's easy. Like, I started reading Lindsey fiction 'cause I like Chris Kane so much and I talked to

unfeathered and she told me a few of the pictures I'd made icons from where actually from the show, Angel, and that sort of triggered it. And I started reading NCIS fiction 'cause one girl,

luthien82 asked for Tony icons - I'd never heard of Tony at that point - and I looked him up and thought he was pretty and ended up reading fiction and that convinced me to watch the show. I really do that a lot. I think it's mainly because, hell. I can't just turn on the TV and watch a show and decide if I like it or not. I have to go out of my way to be able to watch any show at all (since I refuse to watch German TV, but it's not my fault that it's just so ridiculously bad, is it?), so it's much easier to read fanfiction first *waves hand around vaguely* If that makes sense?

it makes perfect sense to me! :) Although if the first few fics you read were ooc that might lead to problems

well, yeah. but usually, fiction that is ooc tends to be of rather... poor quality. so it's not too hard to avoid those.

true.

Hey- would you be up for taking a look at my logan/jack if I emailed it to you?

Wheee, of course! As long as you don't expect in-depth comments or an actual beta. But an overlook and squee and an overall comment? I'm so there :D Have my e-mail or want it again?

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