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donutsweeper ([personal profile] donutsweeper) wrote2008-01-14 01:21 pm
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bigbang go boom

Jack?  Please shut up.  You're supposed to be in a tale of intrigue and aliens, not having tea with a giggling four year old.  Remember the mystery?  The reason this whole stupid story is being written in the first place?  Do you think you can address that part sometime this century?

Plot=hard.  Tea and crumpets=fun.  *sigh*

[identity profile] chatona.livejournal.com 2008-01-14 07:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Life is hard. Eat a donut? ♥

[identity profile] donutsweeper.livejournal.com 2008-01-14 07:29 pm (UTC)(link)
excellent suggestion. thank you *munches*

[identity profile] chatona.livejournal.com 2008-01-14 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought you might appreciate it. Maybe if you bribe Jack with donuts, he'll cooperate?

[identity profile] donutsweeper.livejournal.com 2008-01-14 07:33 pm (UTC)(link)
can't hurt. serves me right for not plotting this sucker out before writing it, but that sort of writing never works for me. I just have a general idea of where its going and let the characters take me there.

I guess since bigbang is 20,000 words a little random babble here and there isn't the worst thing, but still... *sigh*

[identity profile] chatona.livejournal.com 2008-01-14 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I never plot things out, either. My characters all pout and refuse to cooperate when I set them limits.

No, I don't think the random babble is bad. Besides, if it's fun... Uhm. Anyway. Cute icon ♥

[identity profile] donutsweeper.livejournal.com 2008-01-14 07:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Sadly, I have more Diefenbaker ones than Jack. OMG, your icon is funny!

So, I'm not the only one that doesn't plot it out? *phew*

[identity profile] chatona.livejournal.com 2008-01-14 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Well... That. You should maybe change that *nods* I love that icon. I wish I could come up with ideas like that :D

Nope, definitely not. I tried plotting once or twice, but when I do, I lose interest in the fic much quicker and it's not as much fun and... so on.

[identity profile] awanderingbard.livejournal.com 2008-01-14 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Sometimes I think if the characters aren't cooperating, they're trying to tell you that what they're doing is important. That may sound crazy, but...yeah.

In one story I wrote, I wrote a chapter and then realised that nothing plotwise happened in the chapter, but I couldn't cut it out because Harry really needed to go and do that and in the end, it I was able to use it as a little aside that made him feel less alone.

So maybe Jack really needs to have some tea? Or he's being a jerk, whatever. You can always cut that part out later if it's not working.

*huggles*

[identity profile] donutsweeper.livejournal.com 2008-01-14 07:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm going to add more Jack ones, once it's safe to go looking for them again (after S2 has started)

I agree- if you have vague, general plot ideas=fun, but detailed plot points=boring

[identity profile] donutsweeper.livejournal.com 2008-01-14 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
that doesn't sound crazy, it makes sense. And

You can always cut that part out later if it's not working.

that's just excellent advice, especially since this is for [livejournal.com profile] tardis_bigbang so the story will need to be a scary 20,000 words!!! I might need a fair bit of filler for it

[identity profile] chatona.livejournal.com 2008-01-14 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
More Jack icons are always a good thing, no matter at what time :D But I can understand if you don't want to look at the moment.

Yeah. Exactly my point.

[identity profile] donutsweeper.livejournal.com 2008-01-14 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that's why crack!fic appeals to me so much, and writing drabbles. No plot neccessary

[identity profile] jadesfire2808.livejournal.com 2008-01-14 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
If they're having fun, leave them to it. They'll find their way to a plot in the end.

I am of the firm belief that plotting is something that happens subconsciously as much as anything else, and it's not until I start writing or talking (pity [livejournal.com profile] miss_zedem who's been subjected to my ramblings in person...) that I work out what's going on. You just need a scenario, and a 'this is my point' idea, and then you can run with it.

Besides. Crumpets are yummy.

[identity profile] chatona.livejournal.com 2008-01-14 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I like emotional plot... If you can call that plot. Emotional developement. Whatever. That stuff with emotions. I'm not very good with actual, proper plot.

[identity profile] donutsweeper.livejournal.com 2008-01-14 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
but emotional development is good too, and plotworthy (which I'm not sure is a word, but oh well)

[identity profile] donutsweeper.livejournal.com 2008-01-14 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, I'm not sure 100% what crumpets are...

But I'm just letting them ramble, I figure I can always trim out the scenes that don't work later. I'm pretty good at going at my stories with hacksaws and hand grenades without mercy.

I do have the scenario in mind, a vague sense of A, B, C etc- just no clear idea of how to get from A to B to C. I let my characters guide me, if that makes sense

[identity profile] chatona.livejournal.com 2008-01-14 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
emotional development is fun. and i like playing with the characters and see how they work in an AU setting or when faced with something unusual (e.g. mpreg) and that sort of thing

[identity profile] donutsweeper.livejournal.com 2008-01-14 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
something unusual... like alien donuts? *g*

[identity profile] chatona.livejournal.com 2008-01-14 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
.... *giggles*

uhm. i... don't know? maybe? *ponders*

[identity profile] awanderingbard.livejournal.com 2008-01-14 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, I'm not sure 100% what crumpets are...

Oh, crumpets are these wonderful little things. They're sort of like english muffins, they're all nook and cranny-y and they have a smooth bottom. You toast them and put butter on them or, my favourite, lemon curd or whatever (peanut butter is really good too). They're crispy and chewy and yummy. *nods* We eat them for breakfast at my house, but I'm sure they're good with tea too.

[identity profile] donutsweeper.livejournal.com 2008-01-14 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I've only ever heard of them in a vague 'they had tea and crumpets' sort of way. And the little girl is pretending to be all proper so is pretending the cookies are crumpets.

those sound GOOD though!

[identity profile] mad-jaks.livejournal.com 2008-01-14 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Nook and cranny-y like? Yes. Like an English muffin? NO no no no no *makes a sound of distress*
Sorry. And Peanut butter on one is just wrong ♥

Scrummy looking picture (http://www.jupiterimages.com/popup2.aspx?navigationSubType=itemdetails&itemID=22196338)

[identity profile] donutsweeper.livejournal.com 2008-01-14 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
do people really have them with tea?

(or is it okay for an american kid to think people do, anyway?)

[identity profile] mad-jaks.livejournal.com 2008-01-14 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Aww don't be a meanie let him have his little tea party. I'm sure he'll return to the plot feeling refreshed and ready for anything :D

[identity profile] donutsweeper.livejournal.com 2008-01-14 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
yes ma'am

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